Random meme

[winter]

From ninjatrauma:

1. Comment in this post with a pairing, a character, or a threesome.

2. I shall write you back a paragraph explaining what I think about it (good, bad, indifferent) and why.

3. Let's discuss / argue / CAPSLOCK at each other about it! I only ask that you don't get insulted, angry, mean, or stupid.

*bats eyelashes* Anyone? :) And anything I ever heard of!

Comments

[fyrie.livejournal.com]

Herbert/Alfred/Sarah - either triangle or the two pairings relating to each other. Your call :)

[winter]

Which version? :P

I have to admit that in the show, I've always seen it as a flow of attraction rather than a proper triangle. Herbert is attracted to Alfred because it's a new pretty face; it could develop into something more once the first fire burns out, because Alfred's innocent curiosity has to appeal, but the chance for it isn't there. Alfred to Sarah, I see as a similar fascination compounded by the fact it's natural for him to feel attracted to her. It's perhaps closer to love, or a crush, because he admires her personality and is drawn by it, but he doesn't understand her. He falls into the stereotype of thinking of her as a damsel to be rescued, and that's his downfall.

The other way around? Sarah treats Alfred in an utilitarian way. Okay, Malwina's influencing my interpretation here, but with every Sarah there's at most a wistful moment of "hey, he's cute and if I didn't have anything better..." Her ambitions (or dreams, depending on the Sarah in question) are higher, and she won't let a crush get in the way.

While Alfred towards Herbert - it depends on interpretation, again, but I see a horrified fascination of sorts. Fright, yes, but also looking back and being completely puzzled by someone so free, symbolically and actually, of the confines of societal norms. The scientist in Alfred wants to study this. And again, I can see that working out in the long term.

[fyrie.livejournal.com]

Malwina seems to be pretty much the all-round Sarah deal. Y'know, she and Thomas would have torn up the stage with Diva-ness ;)

[valancystar.livejournal.com]

Hmm. Alfred/Krolock? :D

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I could go on for pages and pages about the symbolism of fathers and penetration and emasculation in Tanz, but the bottom of the line is, Krolock is IT. The big guy. Top banana. And Alfred knows he's the bottom of the heap, and seeing that magificence he can't help but get a bit of a crush. As evidenced by Carpe Noctem, because Alfred knows when he doesn't stand a chance.

Then there is Unstillbare, and I've always disapproved of the Warsaw choice to skip Alfred's reaction to it. I think it's the moment where Krolock stops being a dream and starts being someone real. Paradoxically, it's what makes Alfred able to stand up to him in Tanzsaal, and though Abronsius' help is needed and the whole endeavour is useless, I think that defiance is a turning point for Alfred's self-confidence. Once he's a vampire, I can see him glomping on Krolock's leg and demanding to be taught.

(And the other way around, I adore Krolocks who take the time to seduce their Alfreds - especially Steve in his more manic phases, Borchert in Vienna, and both Lukasz's and Yamaguchi's final shows. Alfred is the everyman and he represents the viewpoint of the audience, so the first act finale is where we're all seduced, until the doors slam and we can't wait for more.)

[valancystar.livejournal.com]

Hee! I adore your assessment. For some reason I'm fascinated with the idea of Alfred/Krolock though I haven't been able to explain myself why. No doubt at least partly because of the things you just said. I keep wanting to write a fic about them, but haven't got started, probably because I haven't got a coherent idea to start with. Let's see if this should inspire any more. (And yeah, incidentially, I remember I've still got something I've promised to translate for you. Oops. Now that most of my classes are over and I should get around to independent work again, perhaps translating a story will finally happen instead...)

I adore Krolocks who take the time to seduce their Alfreds

So do I. :) (Btw, I also find that Kevin Tarte and Max Niemayer have quite a good chemistry on the Hamburg pro-shot. A pity that neither of their voices really fit the role.)

[winter]

I think that with Kevin Tarte I was a bit too distracted by his voice and the fact he's... well, flaming like a cupcake. I prefer my VKs to be of the more predatory part, though I admit the first act finale was his best bit.

*eyedart* And I'm planning to use my Fyrie-less time to edit more of the RP. Then she promised to put it on a timeline of sorts, because so far we've got threads ranging from 300 BC (Thanatos meets Malak) to 1920, and quite detailed plans for the Second World War.

[fyrie.livejournal.com]

*coughs discreetly* Like we don't both have a bucketload of stuff to do ;)

[valancystar.livejournal.com]

Yes, Tarte's flamingness is a bit distracting, too. As are his hands, at least in Gott ist tot. I like some parts of his acting, but I have to be in the right mood for him. He does a good 1st Act Finale, though.

Hee, I try to wait patiently till you have time to get it done, but oh, I'd really love to get to read it. :D

[winter]

fyrie saw this and started catalogue-ing chronological events :) So it's possible that we'll have the first installment up soon.

[valancystar.livejournal.com]

Wheee! That would be terrific! And distract me nicely from my studying duties (which I may be bound to all summer, so an occasional distraction would be useful). ;)

[winter]

Watch your words ;) Then again, we've been addicted to this soap opera for almost 7 months now...

[valancystar.livejournal.com]

Hee. And I'm good at getting addictions. :D

[imadra-blue.livejournal.com]

Oh, fun!

What about Obi-Wan Kenobi?

[winter]

Short version: he's the most bastard of bastards.

I think the TPM dynamics sets it up nicely - cheating with dice and leaving Shmi nonwithstanding, Qui-Gon is the idealist, while Obi-Wan is the pragmatist. Obi-Wan's the one willing to let his goals justify the means, which can be good in hard times, but his falling is that he thinks he's very smart. He fails to make allowances for things not going the way he thinks they will. I'm wondering if it's not a function of his use of the Force: he uses it in intellectual ways and doesn't touch the living Force if he can help it, therefore his intuition is not as strong as it could be. I think that in a way, his Jedi training was curtailed by Qui-Gon's death and that's one failing he never realised.

[imadra-blue.livejournal.com]

I do agree with most of your assessment; it's spot on. However, I do think he realized how Qui-Gon's death impacted him. He spends his whole life trying to live up to Qui-Gon, following Qui-Gon's dying wish, etc. Most of the time, I think he thinks his own way of doing things is better, but right around RotS, it dawns on him that maybe Qui-Gon was right along.

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Then again, while he adjusts it a bit with Luke, he's still stuck with the same blinders on his eyes. He's just a bit of a control freak, and again too confident in his own abilities. It's only once he trusts Luke fully, abandoning his rigid control of the boy, that he's able to give Luke the needed strength.

[ciciaye.livejournal.com]

Herbert/Dawn. Well, you never know... *g*

CCA

[winter]

*eyedart* I should really poke fyrie harder, but alas, she's going to gallivate in Berlin and Sweden rather than within arm's reach. Suffice it to say that they're psychic twins and soulmates and Evil Incorporated.

And the cutest scene fyrie ever described to me is VK walking in on them :>

[fyrie.livejournal.com]

*stares* You think that's the cutest scene? Really, m'dear, you worry me :P (And is it possible to be soul mates when one of your doesn't have a soul and the other is a creature made of supernatural energy? :D)

[winter]

I meant Herbert's reaction :P Weirdest dad/son moment ever, I think.

[fyrie.livejournal.com]

Y'know, its been so long since I plotted it, I can barely remember it. I'm glad I have your memory for a notebook :D

[winter]

And ditto :P *hugs*

[ciciaye.livejournal.com]

And the cutest scene fyrie ever described to me is VK walking in on them

I want to see that! (If fyrie doesn't mind, that is...) I've now got visions of VK joining in... :-)
(And Spike spending the next few weeks either being jealous or teasing Herbert mercilessly)

CCA

[winter]

*eyedart* If I recall correctly, Spike sniffs Herbert and falls off the couch with hysterical laughter ;)

[silly-swordsman.livejournal.com]

Severus Snape/Granny Weatherwax/Willow

[winter]

As lessons in how magic can go wrong, I assume?

Of the three, Severus is the most realistic. He's a clear example of the fact that magic does not solve every problem. Presumably he starts off from this point of view, and it's this quest for power that makes him follow Voldemort's cause. But there is blindness, and there are barriers we cannot cross. Snape runs headlong into one and the rest is a balancing act on its edge. I think it's telling that he deals in Potions, the least showy and perhaps most powerful magic of all: every time he tries to solve his problems with the wave of the wand, it's bound to misfire and blow his own hand off.

Granny Weatherwax maintains she knows that magic solves everything, and is likewise reluctant to show it off. But I've always had the impression it's lip service. While Severus got over his crush on power, Esme is still in love with it, and it has made her just as bitter. Magic is her entire life, and there's not enough of it to go around to provide for a full existence.

Willow, I must say I don't know enough about in her magical persona, since I've only seen the first two seasons. But I've always balked at the way they took the character. I liked the little techno-witch, and I think she would have been better off that way. Instead it was the writers, not Willow, who got lost in the possibilities magic offered and finally saw no other way out than to make everything go boom. The end result is that even for Spike, whom I adore, I'm not going to go out of my way chasing down the last two seasons of Buffy.

[amelia-petkova.livejournal.com]

Sands/Ajedrez. Much as I love the vampires, the weather here has turned hot, and it puts me in a OUaTiM mood.